Monthly Archives: January 2008

Lighten Up #5 Southern Grandma. Do you know this lady?

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How much “poop” do you want in your brownies?

I have been dealing with a situation that reminds me of a story I heard once.

Seems as if there was a father who had a couple of teenage daughters. He loved them very much and every Friday night he would bake them a batch of brownies. This was really something they looked forward to every Friday.

One Sunday, on the way home from church, the daughters asked their father if they could go to a movie with some of the other kids from church. The father asked them what movie it was, and they told him. Just so happens that he was familiar with this movie and knew that it might not be appropriate for his daughters to see.

“Girls, you know I love you, but this movie isn’t one that I think you should see”, said the dad.

“Aw, come on dad, all the girls from the youth group are going and besides that it only has a little ‘cussin’ in it and maybe a little “sexy stuff. It must be good dad, everybody going to it!”

“Girls, let me think about it and I will let you know next Friday” said the dad.

The father prayed about it and Friday came with an answer. As he was preparing the girls their brownies for that night, he got his answer, and put some special ingredients in the mix.

That night, the girls rushed into the kitchen and saw their brownies. Just as they were about to munch down, dad says ” Girls wait! You know that movie you asked me about, you know the one with a little “cussin” and a little “sexy stuff ? Well, I decided that if you will eat all of these brownies tonight, that I will consider letting you go to it”. 

“WOW! Really dad? That’s great!” the girls exclaimed!

“BUT WAIT a minute girls before you eat them. You should know that I put a special ingredient in them. You know, you said that the movie only had a little “cussin” and “sexy stuff” in it. Well you should know that there is a little dog poop in your brownies.”

The point to this story is, How much poop do you want in your brownies?

When we start making excuses for even a “little sin”, then you are giving the enemy, satan, just enough room to start operating in different areas of your life.  

1 Thessalonians 5:22 says; “Abstain from all appearance of evil.”

You know the old saying, ” if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, then it must be a duck”. Sin is sin, no matter how you package it up!

So the next time someone tells you something or ask you something that might not be in God’s will for you, just ask yourself, ” How much poop do I want in my brownies ?” 

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Defeating defeaters. A post about Sign of Jonah

Over at the Sign of Jonah site, there is a post by Drew that was done in early 2007. In this post, Drew said the following

“So with that out of the way, it allows us to go back again to the issues. We raise them in our posts and if you disagree, then do so on a theological basis. And when I say, “Give me a biblical argument,” I’m not saying, “Quote Matt. 7:3 out of context to me as a ‘proof-text’ that I shouldn’t be doing this.” Nothing pisses me off more because you’re using the Holy Word of God to excuse false teachers! How is that the Christian thing to do? I’m asking for a response to the substance, not the method. I am fully aware that I come across with all the tact of Rush Limbaugh at a Demerol convention. But whether you like it or not, we’ve called into question the orthodoxy of certain teachers. If we’re wrong, there’s got to be a biblical argument that would explain it. In my experience, people are not willing to find that. They would much rather flame-throw which is too bad because you’re missing the beautiful truth of Christianity in the process of defending false teachers or chasing after some more “genuine” or “intimate” way to God. Cain tried to find his own way to God too and it didn’t work out so well. Hmm…”

 

I mentioned on January 3, 2008 on SOJ that the word “P….s me off ” was hardly a Christian thing to say. I immediately was rebuked by drew. So following his own advice from the post, I used this verse from 1 Peter; 1 Peter 3:10
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

Using a Biblical argument, as drew asked for people to do, I showed him the error of why he of all people should be careful of such language. I posted that comment late yesterday on SOJ. This morning it had been deleted. What’s wrong Drew?

You see the problem with most people, myself included, is when someone else shows us the error of our ways, we get offended and become defensive our-self. This is exactly the problem Drew was trying to get at with his post. Yet while pointing fingers at other ministries and people, SOJ, Drew in particular gets very defensive. That is an unteachable spirit and lives strong in a “spirit of offense”.

It wasn’t as much the word “pi…d off” that was used, it was the defense of it that was done by bill and mbaker. Bill even tried to use scripture to defend use of such word.

That is what I am talking about here. The hypocritical attitude that is often displayed at SOJ.

None of us are perfect. There was only one, Jesus Christ, who was and is the Perfect One. When we make a mistake in our words or actions, and a brother or sister points it out to us, we either receive it as a word of correction or we don’t. We either choose to repent and turn away from that thing or we don’t. If we are to lead by our examples, then let Christ Jesus be the example we lead by!

 

Why did I write this post? I was told by mbaker to do so. Here it is from her; Comment by mbaker on January 4, 2008 1:10 pm

“Jake,

You have a blog – write a post on this if you are so concerned about it. ”

My response to those there at SOJ for this coming year of 2008! Let it be a year of New Beginnings. Try to bring about unity in The Body instead of always pointing fingers at what is wrong with The Body. Sure we all have views and opinions, but do they reflect who we say we are in Christ Jesus?

That’s enough said for now. I managed to express my views on the matter without using “pi…d off ” or any other expletive. And boy, I sure feel better!!

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Apostolic Coverings? The Sky is Falling!

You know, I have tried to “submit” myself to some of these “Apostles” that I have “been under”. Unfortunately it almost always gets down to the question of whose Kingdom are we working to grow. When I read Paul’s writings, he makes it pretty clear that we are all partners in this venture. God is no respecter of mankind, and all have the same chance to be a child of God or become a child of satan.

NO WHERE in NT scripture are we taught that we “must be under a covering” to do the work of the calling on our life.

Here is an interesting link that I believe pretty well sums up this subject: 

http://www.spake.org/spake/articles/4print/p-covering.htm

I have found, at least in my ministry work, that most of these people who say you “must be covered” are not interested in teamwork, but in lordship over individuals and growing their own personal kingdoms.

There is only One Head of The Church, and His name is Jesus, The Christ, The Son of God.

Our ultimate accountability is to HIM and no man or woman. This has nothing to do with “everything done decent and in order” that Paul refers to in 1Corinthians 14:40. This verse is in reference to keeping things from getting to a point of chaos during worship services or meetings.

I am asked sometimes about submitting to a “covering”. I ask this question. When a person comes to Christ, does he or she sign a membership to the Body of Christ? No. We come to Him freely and He accepts us with open and loving arms. HIS only request is for us to repent and follow HIM. God isn’t interested in us building all these micro-kingdoms that are scattered about. If it isn’t about building His Kingdom, then we should have no part of it. The only membership He is interested in, is us being His Children. He writes our names in The Book of Life. It is a personal relationship with your Heavenly Father that matters to Jesus.

Well, what about ” don’t forsake the assembling together”, doesn’t that mean going to church? Let’s look at it and see.

Hebrews 10:24-26 (King James Version)

   24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:  25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
So the primary reason for this verse is to “exhort one another”. To help one another “as the day approaches”, so that you don’t continue in sin. That doesn’t say you go to a church building and submit yourself to an “apostle” or “pastor” to be “exhorted”. We, as the Body, are to “exhort one another”. We, as the body, are to “edify one another”. This does not mean “you have” to submit to anyone, other than God.
What about the local church? Yes, by all means, I support the local church. It is a place of “worship” to The Lord. It is a place of fellow-shipping with other believers and it is a place to “equip and edify one another”. It never was intended to be a place where someone is “lorded over”. Too many churches and too many Christians have become idol worshippers of “their church”. They are so caught up in “their church” that they will miss what God is trying to say or do, because it doesn’t fit with “their churches doctrines”.
This whole concept of “submitting” to someone, does little to promote the team-work that Paul mentions in

2 Corinthians 6:1-3 (King James Version)

  1We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.  2(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)  3Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
“Workers Together”!!! I help you to grow and you help me to grow in our personal walk with God and the end results come down to His Kingdom grows and He is Exalted. It is about unity in the Body, like a precision watch with all the gears meshed and running smoothly.
Finally, is the sky going to fall if you aren’t “under a covering”?
I don’t think so!!!!! Remember this one thing! God always looks at the heart. If your heart is tilted toward Him, then so what if you don’t quite buy into “religion”. Jesus didn’t either!!
Find your self a strong Bible believing, Spirit Filled and ALIVE church, that is more concerned about Him and what He wants, and not so much about what the latest “Apostolic, Prophetic ” word is.
Does that mean I am changing my position on Apostles and Prophets for today? NO, a hundred times over, NO!! I believe according to Ephesians 4 in the Five Fold ministry, and that Yes, it is for us today. Just be careful of who you submit to!
Are they building you up and equipping you for the work of the ministry? Are they helping you to grow in your walk with Jesus? Or, are they holding you back from the calling on your life, perhaps to build “their church”? Are they giving you good sound doctrine that lines up with God’s Holy Word, and not some mans’ commentary or some denominations doctrines?
“Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and all His righteousness, and these things shall be added unto you” 

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